"But he doesn't disappear."
"Sometimes it takes a while, Sire."
"What do you think of him, Demerzel?"
"He is dangerous but has a certain popularity. It is the popularity that increases the danger."
"If you find him dangerous and if I find him annoying, why must we wait? Can't he simply be imprisoned or executed or something?"
"The political situation on Trantor, Sire, is delicate-"
"It is always delicate. When have you told me that it is anything but delicate?"
"We live in delicate times, Sire. It would be useless to move strongly against him if that would but exacerbate the danger."
"I don't like it. I may not be widely read-an Emperor doesn't have the time to be widely read-but I know my Imperial history, at any rate. There have been a number of cases of these populists, as they are called, that have seized power in the last couple of centuries. In every case, they reduced the reigning Emperor to a mere figurehead. I do not wish to be a figurehead, Demerzel."
"It is unthinkable that you would be, Sire."
"It won't be unthinkable if you do nothing."
"I am attempting to take measures, Sire, but cautious ones."
"There's one fellow, at least, who isn't cautious. A month or so ago, a University professor-a professor-stopped a potential Joranumite riot single-handedly. He stepped right in and put a stop to it."
"So he did, Sire. How did you come to hear of it?"
"Because he is a certain professor in whom I am interested. How is it that you didn't speak to me of this?"
Demerzel said, almost obsequiously, "Would it be right for me to trouble you with every insignificant detail that crosses my desk?"
"Insignificant? This man who took action was Hari Seldon."
"That was, indeed, his name."
"And the name was a familiar one. Did he not present a paper, some years ago, at the last Decennial Convention that interested us?"
"Yes, Sire."
Cleon looked pleased. "As you see, I do have a memory. I need not depend on my staff for everything. I interviewed this Seldon fellow on the matter of his paper, did I not?"
"Your memory is indeed flawless, Sire."
"What happened to his idea? It was a fortune-telling device. My flawless memory does not bring to mind what he called it."
"Psychohistory, Sire. It was not precisely a fortune-telling device but a theory as to ways of predicting general trends in future human history."
"And what happened to it?"
"Nothing, Sire. As I explained at the time, the idea turned out to be wholly impractical. It was a colorful idea but a useless one."
"Yet he is capable of taking action to stop a potential riot. Would he have dared do this if he didn't know in advance he would succeed? Isn't that evidence that this-what?-psychohistory is working?"
"It is merely evidence that Hari Seldon is foolhardy, Sire. Even if the psychohistoric theory were practical, it would not have been able to yield results involving a single person or a single action."
"You're not the mathematician, Demerzel. He is. I think it is time I questioned him again. After all, it is not long before the Decennial Convention is upon us once more."
"It would be a useless-"
"Demerzel, I desire it. See to it."
"Yes, Sire."
16
Raych was listening with an agonized impatience that he was trying not to show. He was sitting in an improvised cell, deep in the warrens of Billibotton, having been accompanied through alleys he no longer remembered. (He, who in the old days could have threaded those same alleys unerringly and lost any pursuer.)
The man with him, clad in the green of the Joranumite Guard, was either a missionary, a brainwasher, or a kind of theologian-manque. At any rate, he had announced his name to be Sander Nee and he was delivering a long message in a thick Dahlite accent that he had clearly learned by heart.
"If the people of Dahl want to enjoy equality, they must show themselves worthy of it. Good rule, quiet behavior, seemly pleasures are all requirements. Aggressiveness and the bearing of knives are the accusations others make against us to justify their intolerance. We must be clean in word and-"
Raych broke in. "I agree with you, Guardsman Nee, every word. But I must see Mr. Joranum."
Slowly the guardsman shook his head. "You can't 'less you got some appointment, some permission."
"Look, I'm the son of an important professor at Streeling University, a mathematics professor."
"Don't know no professor. I thought you said you was from Dahl."
"Of course I am. Can't you tell the way I talk?"
"And you got an old man who's a professor at a big University? That don't sound likely."
"Well, he's my foster father."
The guardsman absorbed that and shook his head. "You know anyone in Dahl?"
"There's Mother Rittah. She'll know me." (She had been very old when she had known him. She might be senile by now-or dead.)
"Never heard of her."
(Who else? He had never known anyone likely to penetrate the dim consciousness of this man facing him. His best friend had been another youngster named Smoodgie-or at least that was the only name he knew him by. Even in his desperation, Raych could not see himself saying: "Do you know someone my age named Smoodgie?")
Finally he said, "There's Yugo Amaryl."
A dim spark seemed to light Nee's eyes. "Who?"
"Yugo Amaryl," said Raych eagerly. "He works for my foster father at the University."